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 Post subject: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:32 pm 
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I have had obsession to paint kimono for years now. And now it is time to do it. I have silk iromuji that I hope will be the base for this work. It has to be widened a bit and lenghtened since it is 170 cm long. There is almost same fabric in lining so I can use it. I have to replace lining and do padding too. Since it will be more like theatherical piece I do give mysef freedom to chance some details if needed. Iromuji is light green and it gives some restrictions what colours I can use over it.

Here is first scetch of current idea for this hiki. I am thinking red wrapping around waist and matte gold obi worn bit wider and maybe this bow type knot. Or then normal otaiko knot.

What do you think? Is there motivs that I sould not use? Season would be midsummer (here). Plants are wild flovers from here and they all are important to me. Should I move something to other places?

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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:58 am 
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Woah, I think that this is a great idea! I also like the motive you've chosen ^^
But I wouldn't place the swallow on the back, I'd place it on the front side. But that's just a matter of taste =D

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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:37 pm 
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There might not be enough space for both swallows in front. I might make them 20% smaller and then I could move right swallow closer to other.


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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:01 pm 
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wow, be sure to update with pics for every step please ! i for one would love to see the step by step from start to finish ! it will turn out lovely !

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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:55 pm 
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Oh sorry! I haven't seen that there is already a swallow on the front!

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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:15 pm 
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Your design is beautiful!

It depends as well how strict you want to be with seasonality. Really, a midsummer kimono should be one of the summer weaves such as ro, and also unlined. I think all the swallow designs I've seen have been on ro. (I have a swallow juban which is ro too).

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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:28 pm 
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I have tried to find information of hiki collar and sleeves. Some say that it is sewn more back than in normal kimono and some say that there is no difference. Same thing with sleeves. Should I re attach them slightly more front than they are now?


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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:12 am 
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The difference is to do with how far the collar is pulled normal dance hikIs often don't get pulled far enough back to cause trouble with the sleeves so it's up to you

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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:23 am 
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i really like the motif... i think it/you will look stunning in it...

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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:40 am 
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I tried dyeing yesterday. The silk did not take dye well (dylon hand dye) and instead of nice teal colour I have blueish, greenish silver gray... Wuhh 8-O 2 days work...

I have dyed silk before with same dyes without broblems.

Maybe the fabrick was some kind of mixed fabrick or then the previous dye in it prevented colour attaching. I burn tested it and it seemed to be silk. During dyeing colour seemed good but when the silk dried reality came trough.


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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:08 am 
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Did you wash it a few times before you died it. The product in the fabric often dosn't take dye well and the washing or soaking can get it out nicely ^^

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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:29 am 
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I washed all pieces well before dyeing.


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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:01 pm 
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Here is ruy japans odori hiki that has specially attached collar

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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:17 pm 
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sinivuokko wrote:
I have tried to find information of hiki collar and sleeves. Some say that it is sewn more back than in normal kimono and some say that there is no difference. Same thing with sleeves. Should I re attach them slightly more front than they are now?



According to GoldenPhoenix's research (she owns several hikizuri, and sews them), they are sewn a bit differently so that they (collars and sleeves) sit properly when pulled back. If you ask her, you can probably get more details. She is very busy, though, so don't be surprised if it takes a few days to get a reply.

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 Post subject: Re: Iromuji to painted hikizuri
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:22 pm 
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Some progress:

I have sewed pieces together. Only padding and lining in lowest part is missing. Material was indeed mixed and thats why it did not take dye well. Soon I will paint hem ready and sew red lining on it. When ready this is likely to trail 20-30cm.


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