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 Post subject: How to make a Hanhaba Obi?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:36 pm 
Shikomi-san
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Hello Everyone, I'm thinking of trying to make a Hanhaba Obi. Has anyone seen a pattern/directions for making one? I have several panels from a vintage silk kimono that someone unfortunately cut up and sold by the piece. :ohno: The pattern is a lovely Dragonfly and Nadeshiko motif. Image The muted colours are sublime. I only wish that I could have purchased this kimono complete and uncut.


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 Post subject: Re: How to make a Hanhaba Obi?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:01 pm 
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There's no real need for a pattern because it's basically just a gigantic rectangle. They're usually about 6" wide and 130" long, approximately.

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 Post subject: Re: How to make a Hanhaba Obi?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:17 pm 
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:] Thank you Moonblossom. I was unsure of the measurements. I'm thinking of using gray silk brocade and gray silk velvet with the kimono panels to make the Obi. More photos to come.


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 Post subject: Re: How to make a Hanhaba Obi?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:31 pm 
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Just keep in mind that dragonflies and nadeshiko are both very summery motifs, and velvet sounds like a very warm, wintery texture.

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 Post subject: Re: How to make a Hanhaba Obi?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:34 pm 
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Hummmm, a good point. :oops: Looking at my fabric box, I also have some pale pink silk that could work with the gray brocade, and I could make it reversible.


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 Post subject: Re: How to make a Hanhaba Obi?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:33 pm 
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A shame the original poster's images are no longer working but they were posted a while back! Anyhow, I'm adding to this thread since it's related to making a hanhaba obi, namely out of a nagoya obi.


I find so few hanhaba obis compared to nagoya obis for sale online and I saw Naomi had posted a photo of a Hanhaba Obi recycled from Nagoya Obi, and then I saw claw789 said in the Fixing serious creasses thread where Mikayo noticed her nagoya obi was in fact originally a hanhaba obi.

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Depends - was it converted to hanhaba because of stains or wear & tear?

It's easy to convert a nagoya into hanhaba, but not hanhaba in nagoya. If it's a Fukuro Nagoya obi (aka kyo-bukuro) that's only recently been stitched you might be able to get the mark out.


So just how easy is it to convert a hanhaba obi into a nagoya obi?

I did stumble across the obi deconstruction and reconstruction [img hvy] thread where Whitethistle realised her supposed hanhaba obi originally was a nagoya obi.. but that seemed more like a reversed puzzle, with a mystery aspect!

One simply trims off the excess edges off the nagoya obi and tries to neatly sew those together, and voilà a hanhaba obi? I've not seen a nagoya up close though, so I'm uncertain how that triangular section where it is doubled can be tackled.

Hm, it seems some these two obi types can differ in length too, which I assume can also cause some issues. Nagoya: between 345 to 315 cm, and hanhaba: 330 cm.
Or just which bit of the nagoya obi is it that is longer, if longer than a hanhaba? The wider bit or the narrow bit, or a bit of both?


Has anyone else re-sewn and rejoiced to show and tell? :)

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 Post subject: Re: How to make a Hanhaba Obi?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:40 pm 
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I think it would only work if the hanhaba had the same fabric on both sides, so in those cases I suspect it was originally a fukuro or Nagoya, and then folded in half permanently.

For the OP, you do want to make sure that none of your seams will be in places that are very visible when the obi is worn (unless you're deliberately going for a patchwork look).

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 Post subject: Re: How to make a Hanhaba Obi?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:27 am 
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*nods to Sarcasm-hime*

I'll see if I can find some suitable nagoya obis to convert :)

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