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 Post subject: Yoshino ori (very image heavy)
PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:31 pm 
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Some time ago, I bought this interesting woven hanhaba obi which was described by the seller as "yoshino ori".

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I already had several obi with a similar weave, and since then I have become obsessed with this type of obi. Has anyone ever heard this term before?

Some examples:

Some are exactly the same but with different colors.

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Some are a weave that seems similar, but the design is different:

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Woow, they're so rustic and yummy looking... I want to feel them. 8-O

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 Post subject: Re: Yoshino ori (very image heavy)
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Oooo. I really like that pattern!!

This weave must be specific to the city of Yoshino (There are two Yoshino.) I think this is the one that does the weaving. It's a tiny, rural area:

Yoshino (吉野) is a small town in the north of Nanyo, Yamagata Prefecture, Japan. It is made up of two smaller villages, Ogi and Kotaki. As of 2005, the town had a population of 935.

Though if you search 吉野 you get lots of pictures of cherry blossoms and obi. The other Yoshino is suppose to be famous for cherry blossoms. So I'm just confused... :eek:

Anyway here are some pages with light explanations in Japanese..

A blog about the weaving
http://yujinobiog.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2010-05-07/

Another description of the weaving
http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/unohanasomekoubou/01169.html

Really beautiful obi, and really expensive new! Congratulations on owning so many!! :lovelove


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:39 am 
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Chiisana Hato wrote:
Really beautiful obi, and really expensive new! Congratulations on owning so many!! :lovelove

I had to pay quite a bit for some of them, hardly anything for others. I actually own 2 more of the first type and 3 more of the second type - just didn't have pictures. I really love them and wear them a lot...

Thank you for the links. I tried to find some information myself, but came up with nothing.


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 Post subject: Re: Yoshino ori (very image heavy)
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Hmmm - the first link is not working for me...


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 Post subject: Re: Yoshino ori (very image heavy)
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I found an entry on the 10th of May of 2010, but his entry for May 7th is about fish.

Yohmama-san, if you remove the numbers at the end of the url, you'll get his blog, and can then use the calendar to move to the appropriate month (or just look through things). You can find the date of the post at the top left of his post. Once on each calendar month, there's a little button at the bottom of the first page of posts with a little link for "earlier posts" (前の10件).

I hope that helps...


I don't know anything about the weave myself, but it looks interesting! Googling it reveals that a kimono made of the weave was on display as part of the Nihon Kogekai (Japanese Traditional Art Crafts Exhibition), but it doesn't give any image or any more information than this, in a long list of exhibited items:

00337 Kimono of Yoshino weave. "Biyoyanagi (Wind blowing through cherry trees)"
FUJIOKA Toshie


Yoshino (in Nara Prefecture, but not overly far from Osaka) is famous for sakura. For map location, here's a JNTO link (Yoshino). It also has been an important area in Japan's history (it's mentioned in old texts like the Nihon shoki and Kojiki).


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平織りの地に、縞または格子状に畦(あぜ)織りを入れた特殊組織の織物。

As far as I can tell, this says something like: "In the 'genre' of hiraori (plain weave/plain fabrics), it has woven stripes or square blocks (bordered like the rice fields, the levees) in a unique pattern/construction. "Yoshino Koushi" (Yoshino lattice/grid).

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 Post subject: Re: Yoshino ori (very image heavy)
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:35 pm 
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Thanks for sharing! This kind of weaving is really interesting.
I didn't know anything about these obi, and I only have seen them once before, in the 2008 summer issue of Nana·oh magazine, paired with summer kimono (or yukata, not sure).

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I really like these obi, they give such a nice relaxed feeling to an ensemble!


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 Post subject: Re: Yoshino ori (very image heavy)
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U no Hana wrote:
I only have seen them once before, in the 2008 summer issue of Nana·oh magazine, paired with summer kimono (or yukata, not sure).
Is there any chance you could scan (or photograph) this picture and post it? I have NEVER seen a picture of one being worn by anyone but me... :kawaii:


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 Post subject: Re: Yoshino ori (very image heavy)
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There is only one outfit in the article, which is about kimono stylist Yoko Akizuki helping a customer with her yukata outfit. I can't translate it, but as I can understand she recommends these obi to be worn kimono style with tabi and haneri. (this article is featured in kimono magazine 七緒 Vol.14, ISBN978-4-8334-7042-1)

Some of the obi

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All the complements they chose, including a cute glass obi kazari:

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Final outfit:

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If you are interested in the whole article I could scan all the pages. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Yoshino ori (very image heavy)
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Thank you so much, U no Hana! This is really exciting for me to see. I love to wear yukata in kimono style, because it seems a little more appropriate for an older lady like me.

No need to scan the whole article, since I can't read Japanese.


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Here's a strange question for you: what do they feel like? They look like they're pretty heavy and thick and the thread looks coarse. I assume they're easy to tie?

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 Post subject: Re: Yoshino ori (very image heavy)
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Although some were sold as cotton, some as silk and some as rayon, they mostly all feel like soft cotton to me. A couple of them are nagoya, but all the rest are hanhaba (unlike the fukuro in the article). One is double layered with a crisp lining, but all the rest are very soft and floppy. The hanhaba work very well for tying. I almost always tie my hanhaba in a clam's mouth, and the knot does not slip out like some of the silks or synthetics. They aren't coarse feeling at all.


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Now I want one too. :]

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Yoshino ori, the new hakata? :wink:

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OH NO!!! What have I done???!!!??? :angerburst


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Yamatoku has one in similar style listed here (it's been there for a while! I remembered it while browing this thread)


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hikari_evyon wrote:
Yoshino ori, the new hakata? :wink:
Not quite... Can't I have my cake and eat it, too? There's nothing wrong in having a random sample of each for scientific comparison!


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Not much, considering I'm on a kimono diet these days. (2.5 months)I guess I'll get rid of some of my pieces before acquiring new ones, excepted if THE ONE comes my way.

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MWAHAHA! I want a Yoshino ori obi, too :P
yohmama-san wrote:
I love to wear yukata in kimono style, because it seems a little more appropriate for an older lady like me.

I like it, too.
But it makes me think it's time to update the "There is kimono life after 40" with pics of not so very young ladies wearing yukata "yukata style" and looking absolutely proper and gorgeous :wink:

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I used to have one of these - it was the first hanhaba obi I ever bought! Unfortunately, I didn't know as much about kimono then and thought it wasn't a 'proper' one, much as I liked it, because it was so floppy compared to the ones I'd seen in photos.

However, it was lovely and tactile and I wish I hadn't got rid of it...

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Kind of ashamed of myself, since I forbade myself from buying any more wafuku until summer, and already broke that rule three times in the past week.... but I seem to have gotten my hands on one of these obi. 8-O

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I really do love that obi...the blend of colors along with the visual variations in texture are lovely :) !


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I was totally not browsing Shinei tonight when I came across this:

http://www.net-shinei.co.jp/com/item/detail.php?Item=225009&Cate=42&order=&date=&cnt_no=2

While not as lovely as Quat's - it's still a nice piece.

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oouuu that's such a good color though... :droolkitti:

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Woah! I have an obi like that!

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