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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:13 pm 
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Kiku are usually pointed petals, though I've seen maiko with round-petal ones.
Ume are made with 5 round petals, sometimes doubled-up.
Sakura can be made in several ways, either by pinching a round petal or glueing two pointed ones together.

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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:57 pm 
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ookini!
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btw... double petals are simple poking in one petal into another?


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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:36 am 
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Nicky Chan: I can only highly recommend Meander's kanzashi making tutorial on YouTube. She shows how to make the regular petals, the rounded petals and the pointed petals. I don't know about the sakura though maybe Deviant art?

Meander's Kanzashi Tutorial click here

Hope this helps. There are other links in this thread elsewhere which are also really good. :) Just keep practicing and don't get discouraged. Maybe experiment with ordinary fabric that's been heavily starched before trying silk.

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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:58 am 
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thanks a lot! silk is too expensive here! so i use cotton or other cheaper fabrics, but as soon as i get more experienced ill get a little silk and see if it works better XD

the tutorial is great ookini!!! :]


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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:42 am 
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Nicky chan you are welcome any time. I wish you success!

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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:37 am 
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nicky chan wrote:
ookini!
:)

thanks!
btw... double petals are simple poking in one petal into another?
Not quite... you can do that also to get a layered blossom, as these:
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To get double petals, you have to take two squares, fold the first in half, keep it, fold the second square in half, superpose the triangles, and finish your petal with both at the same time (for a round petal. You need to assemble the triangles after the second fold for the pointed ones.)
The image above does have double petals in addition to being layered, by the way.

Here is an example of double petals made with two different fabrics:
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I call these "double petals" and "layered petals," but the denomination has nothing official or set in stone. I simply hope you found out what you wanted!

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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:33 pm 
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sumimasen! your explanation is surely great, but unfortunately, im a visual person and i need to see pctures of the process XDD :cry: i get lost with the triangles!!

thank you so much eitherways for talking a little time to answer my post!

ookini! :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:43 pm 
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Tahanala-san: The photos are very beautiful but I second what Nicky chan says. Is there a tutorial for these type of double petals double layered? Ookini. :) I have not started making Tsunami Kanzashi yet, but I have started to make the bira bira again, small ones like I usually make, only now I have to kind of stop as the holidays are coming up very rapidly!

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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:48 pm 
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kathiego wrote:
... but I have started to make the bira bira again, small ones like I usually make, only now I have to kind of stop as the holidays are coming up very rapidly!



you make bira bira! how nice! congratulations!

i posted a thread about bira bira.. because all my attempts FAILED... heheh... mind giving it a look? ookini!

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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:18 pm 
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Nicky Chan, I have posted a tiny bit there. Thank you. Ookini

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hellokitty8182 wrote:
Can anyone figure out what sort of petal these sakura are made from?

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They look like they are made from round petals but then again some of them seem to be pointed petals.  I'm confused  :???:


I think they're round petals with a slit cut in the tip. It's pretty amazing that the fabric doesn't fray at all!


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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:52 pm 
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I agree with Yanagi-san, I think they are round petals with a slit or piece cut out of the tips. I think if you used fray block or glue or something similar it might keep the fabric from fraying. When I first looked at this kanzashi I thought it was real flowers! Wow so beautiful too! :D

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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:09 am 
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Hmmm, i think each petal is made used two of the "pointy" petals, that way you get the v bit easily.

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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:16 am 
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I agree, those really look like two pointed petals stuck together. I'll have to try that, I've only made sakura from round petals.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:22 pm 
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hellokitty8182 wrote:
Can anyone figure out what sort of petal these sakura are made from?

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They look like they are made from round petals but then again some of them seem to be pointed petals.  I'm confused  :???:


I think that those are indeed pointed petals, but cut at the end to create this heart shape. :)

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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:52 pm 
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Some things to share:

habutae silk on ebay:
1188mall
goodtakecare
twinsmoore
I suppose all of those three are the same shop, but under different names... I bought few times from them and never had a problem with colour or any flaws of the fabric. The silk is really light and when starched- perfect to cut and shape petals. :)
It isn't too expensive too :D

As of starching the silk- I'm making the simplest potato flour starch which is used through the generations in my family XD So basically I'm mixing 1 table spoon of starch with half glass of cold water and boiling 1-1.5l of water, then I add the mixture and stir. Et voila! :D
You can put the silk after it'll loose some of it's hotness :)

Another good thing is to have two pair of tweezers- it's the best idea when everything start to be sticky out of the rice glue- you don't have to run and clean them every five seconds. And an apron- you can always get rid of the glue out of your hands quickly and your clothes are clean :D

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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:02 pm 
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Ah, thank you! I haven't been able to find any locally.
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 Post subject: Re: [Mega Thread] Kanzashi how-to
PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:17 pm 
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You're welcome Tahanala :)

Tell me about it... when I asked in the stores around my idea- they were like- "REAL silk?" and one lady told me something about silk scarves for painting for $40 D:

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